Comments on: Didn’t you get the memo? http://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/2009/12/didnt-you-get-the-memo/ Many Lenses, Once Voice Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:48:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Johnhttp://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/2009/12/didnt-you-get-the-memo/comment-page-1/#comment-1161 John Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:44:53 +0000 http://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/?p=897#comment-1161 Britain is no longer the country of Sir Winston Churchill! A mixture of helpless craven sheep and arrogant bullies. There aren't enough other people. Britain is no longer the country of Sir Winston Churchill! A mixture of helpless craven sheep and arrogant bullies. There aren’t enough other people.

]]> By: Deborah Irvinehttp://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/2009/12/didnt-you-get-the-memo/comment-page-1/#comment-1156 Deborah Irvine Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:59:52 +0000 http://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/?p=897#comment-1156 I would like to add to this infringement on public freedoms. As a photographer I have encountered several rebuffs from small-minded individuals whilst taking shots of buildings in very public areas such as high streets and town centres. My reminder for those who do not wish me to take photos of them is that I respect their wish but a greater power (CCTV) is already documenting their movements and they could find themselves as part of a criminal investigation (the last bit if they are really stoppy!). My second point is that my daughter is studying for GCSE Art and Design and needs to take her own photographs for her project - she has also had problems when taking shots of railway stations and shopping areas. I would like to add to this infringement on public freedoms. As a photographer I have encountered several rebuffs from small-minded individuals whilst taking shots of buildings in very public areas such as high streets and town centres. My reminder for those who do not wish me to take photos of them is that I respect their wish but a greater power (CCTV) is already documenting their movements and they could find themselves as part of a criminal investigation (the last bit if they are really stoppy!). My second point is that my daughter is studying for GCSE Art and Design and needs to take her own photographs for her project – she has also had problems when taking shots of railway stations and shopping areas.

]]> By: Herohhttp://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/2009/12/didnt-you-get-the-memo/comment-page-1/#comment-1153 Heroh Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:50:32 +0000 http://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/?p=897#comment-1153 I'm shocked and appalled by some of the comments I'm seeing here. I'm neither from your country, nor am I a photographer, but this subject is of extreme importance. What I cannot get over is how in your national past you fought the evil Nazis - and yet now you're sprinting towards accepting that type of governance. The 'go along to get along' routine with "any kind of authority" is such an incredibly amazing stance. What has happened in the last 100 years to make you so spineless? "Just give your name" indeed. PFAH! Next it will be 'YOUR PAPERS" at gunpoint. In a 'polite and civil society' you wouldn't have these type of fascistic laws that are targeting your law-abiding populace. It's a laugh to think this is about weeding out terrorists. Please - fix yourselves, and quickly - your grandchildren depend on you! I’m shocked and appalled by some of the comments I’m seeing here. I’m neither from your country, nor am I a photographer, but this subject is of extreme importance.
What I cannot get over is how in your national past you fought the evil Nazis – and yet now you’re sprinting towards accepting that type of governance.
The ‘go along to get along’ routine with “any kind of authority” is such an incredibly amazing stance.
What has happened in the last 100 years to make you so spineless? “Just give your name” indeed. PFAH!
Next it will be ‘YOUR PAPERS” at gunpoint.
In a ‘polite and civil society’ you wouldn’t have these type of fascistic laws that are targeting your law-abiding populace. It’s a laugh to think this is about weeding out terrorists.
Please – fix yourselves, and quickly – your grandchildren depend on you!

]]> By: Davidhttp://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/2009/12/didnt-you-get-the-memo/comment-page-1/#comment-1142 David Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:19:38 +0000 http://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/?p=897#comment-1142 Fools! The whole point of having a right to right to exercise it. The right in question is the right to do legal activities in public without having to justify oneself to (a) other citizens, such as private security guards, or (b) police.The interviewer seems to have missed this point completely. There are reasons the laws are written as they are — the history of having to "justify oneself" is rather oppressive.Remember, private security guards are private citizens without extra powers. Their uniform or badge is something they bought, not a marker given by the state to indicate special powers. The police are very, very different in that respect. Legally, those of you who are arguing that the photog must identify himself are saying, legally, that any moron can demand your ID and ask you to leave a public space. Really. Fools! The whole point of having a right to right to exercise it. The right in question is the right to do legal activities in public without having to justify oneself to (a) other citizens, such as private security guards, or (b) police.

The interviewer seems to have missed this point completely. There are reasons the laws are written as they are — the history of having to “justify oneself” is rather oppressive.

Remember, private security guards are private citizens without extra powers. Their uniform or badge is something they bought, not a marker given by the state to indicate special powers. The police are very, very different in that respect. Legally, those of you who are arguing that the photog must identify himself are saying, legally, that any moron can demand your ID and ask you to leave a public space. Really.

]]> By: Jimhttp://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/2009/12/didnt-you-get-the-memo/comment-page-1/#comment-1132 Jim Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:34:23 +0000 http://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/?p=897#comment-1132 I dread to think how busy the police are outside Buckingham Palace, Downing Street, Houses Of Parliment or Trafagar Square.A short while ago a friend of mine who owns a small store was held up at knifepoint, it took the police over two hours to get there. The police station is less than 300 meters away in the same road. I dread to think how busy the police are outside Buckingham Palace, Downing Street, Houses Of Parliment or Trafagar Square.

A short while ago a friend of mine who owns a small store was held up at knifepoint, it took the police over two hours to get there. The police station is less than 300 meters away in the same road.

]]> By: RMShttp://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/2009/12/didnt-you-get-the-memo/comment-page-1/#comment-1127 RMS Mon, 22 Feb 2010 02:52:37 +0000 http://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/?p=897#comment-1127 I was stopped last year for taking photographs of graffiti art at Queen Elizabeth Hall on the South Bank (London). Back then I was unaware that this was becoming more and more common and was shocked when told that I was being stopped under Section 44 of the terrorist legislation. I asked if I was required to give my details when asked and was told that I didn't have to. What concerned me in addition to the stop was that if my name got on some list of terrorist suspects, I might have problems at airports or in other situations. I was very angry but kept very calm and afterwards learned as much as I could about the use of this anti-terror legislation and filed a complaint with Lord Carlisle's office (the person who oversees this kind of legislation). Police act as though this is no big deal but it really is. Thank god for 'I'm a Photographer Not a Terrorist' and other similar groups. I was stopped last year for taking photographs of graffiti art at Queen Elizabeth Hall on the South Bank (London). Back then I was unaware that this was becoming more and more common and was shocked when told that I was being stopped under Section 44 of the terrorist legislation. I asked if I was required to give my details when asked and was told that I didn’t have to. What concerned me in addition to the stop was that if my name got on some list of terrorist suspects, I might have problems at airports or in other situations. I was very angry but kept very calm and afterwards learned as much as I could about the use of this anti-terror legislation and filed a complaint with Lord Carlisle’s office (the person who oversees this kind of legislation). Police act as though this is no big deal but it really is. Thank god for ‘I’m a Photographer Not a Terrorist’ and other similar groups.

]]> By: JohnDoehttp://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/2009/12/didnt-you-get-the-memo/comment-page-1/#comment-1056 JohnDoe Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:49:32 +0000 http://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/?p=897#comment-1056 As private security guards have a habit of calling the police with fabricated details of events, is it time to follow Nightjacks guide for "law-abiding types who find themselves under suspicion or under arrest. It works for the bad guys so make it work for you." The serving police blogger states you should get a counter allegation in straight away. Get on the phone, tell the police you've been harassed and called gay, fat, black etc....The blog has gone, but the guide is all over the internet. The first hit on google is http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/2009/06/public_service_1.html As private security guards have a habit of calling the police with fabricated details of events, is it time to follow Nightjacks guide for “law-abiding types who find themselves under suspicion or under arrest. It works for the bad guys so make it work for you.” The serving police blogger states you should get a counter allegation in straight away. Get on the phone, tell the police you’ve been harassed and called gay, fat, black etc….

The blog has gone, but the guide is all over the internet. The first hit on google is http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/2009/06/public_service_1.html

]]> By: kombizzhttp://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/2009/12/didnt-you-get-the-memo/comment-page-1/#comment-1043 kombizz Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:10:24 +0000 http://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/?p=897#comment-1043 http://www.pbase.com/image/121534308 http://www.pbase.com/image/121534308

]]> By: josh hayeshttp://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/2009/12/didnt-you-get-the-memo/comment-page-1/#comment-1034 josh hayes Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:02:47 +0000 http://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/?p=897#comment-1034 i have realised that all security in london or any part of the country try and stop you, when taking a photograph in a public place, i as an amateur photographer have been stopped by police and security, questioned and told to delete the photos i had just taken of a buildings reflection of another building. something must be done. i have realised that all security in london or any part of the country try and stop you, when taking a photograph in a public place, i as an amateur photographer have been stopped by police and security, questioned and told to delete the photos i had just taken of a buildings reflection of another building.
something must be done.

]]> By: Rupert Singletonhttp://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/2009/12/didnt-you-get-the-memo/comment-page-1/#comment-1014 Rupert Singleton Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:32:20 +0000 http://PhotographerNotaTerrorist.org/?p=897#comment-1014 Move to Asia, I did – you can shoot whatever you want there!. They like it even!.I do sympathise though, the situation in the UK. Alas, on security guards. Would you do such a lowly job? You can't blame them being bored out of their wits with nothing else to do except get excited at saying "Oi, you, you can't take photos here (sir)". Move to Asia, I did – you can shoot whatever you want there!. They like it even!.

I do sympathise though, the situation in the UK. Alas, on security guards. Would you do such a lowly job? You can’t blame them being bored out of their wits with nothing else to do except get excited at saying “Oi, you, you can’t take photos here (sir)”.

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